補習班老師(員工)無故離職曠職 - 創業
By Edwina
at 2015-06-05T12:06
at 2015-06-05T12:06
Table of Contents
這版真的好多神.....
各個未卜先知~
※ 引述《musashi0389 (龜山老夫郎)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《jamo (hi)》之銘言:
: : 他在學校授課,那在你們這邊兼差
: : 學校方面知道嗎,同意嗎?
: : 你從這邊下手有沒有機會?
: 這個部分應該是沒辦法。
: 補習班和老師的契約關係和學校方面是無關的,
: 況且老師在外差職通常不用學校同意。
誰跟你說的???
: : 至於其他法律層面求償問題我看你別想了~
: : 勞民傷財勝算還不高,就算贏了按時間精力成本你也絕不划算
: : 另外其實我想問一句,
: : 如果雙方都沒簽約,那麼當作合約不存在
: 這部分您可能有點誤會。
: 如有板友提到,契約是雙方口頭合意就能成立了。
: 只是缺乏書面,首先就無法認定契約是否對期間有所規範。
怪了
既然老師沒書面都有辦法證明這個口頭合意的契約
怎麼補習班沒辦法證明這個口頭合意的契約期間?
真是神邏輯~
還不懂?那我照樣造句給你看
"只是缺乏書面,首先就無法認定契約是否成立"
: : 打卡並不代表什麼吧?
: 打卡能證明老師有去上課,也就是有給付其勞務,
: 所以補習班也要相對給付其酬勞。
: : 那老闆有必要付薪水嗎?.......
: 除非補習班方面能舉證老師打完卡就翹班或根本沒上課,
: 否則有打卡記錄通常能推定老師有上班..
打卡記錄若是由補習保存,顆顆,補習班能不能不記得有這個打卡紀錄?
連契約都沒有,何來打卡紀錄呢?
那麼,老師是否要自行證明他的上課時數
此外,既然雙方沒有書面勞動契約,
那麼老師要是否要證明自己的工作時薪是多少?
最後,以這樣走上調解或者訴訟
老實說補習班是以逸待勞啦
因為變成老師要先舉證自己的這些東西,舉證責任變到老師方
補習班就等老師先去申請調解,也不用去,就讓老師白跑一趟
然後坐等老師送狀,看看是否立案
真過了之後,再出庭看看老師有甚麼招,再隨機應變就好了
補習班只需要派個時薪 200 塊的文職秘書來應付這件事
老師自己時薪除非高於 200,否則自己來搞這件事
勞民傷財程度損失絕對高於補習班,就更不用說請律師了
這就是實務.有空多放下鍵盤出去做做事
唉,我在認真什麼呀~我輸了~~
--
各個未卜先知~
※ 引述《musashi0389 (龜山老夫郎)》之銘言:
: ※ 引述《jamo (hi)》之銘言:
: : 他在學校授課,那在你們這邊兼差
: : 學校方面知道嗎,同意嗎?
: : 你從這邊下手有沒有機會?
: 這個部分應該是沒辦法。
: 補習班和老師的契約關係和學校方面是無關的,
: 況且老師在外差職通常不用學校同意。
誰跟你說的???
: : 至於其他法律層面求償問題我看你別想了~
: : 勞民傷財勝算還不高,就算贏了按時間精力成本你也絕不划算
: : 另外其實我想問一句,
: : 如果雙方都沒簽約,那麼當作合約不存在
: 這部分您可能有點誤會。
: 如有板友提到,契約是雙方口頭合意就能成立了。
: 只是缺乏書面,首先就無法認定契約是否對期間有所規範。
怪了
既然老師沒書面都有辦法證明這個口頭合意的契約
怎麼補習班沒辦法證明這個口頭合意的契約期間?
真是神邏輯~
還不懂?那我照樣造句給你看
"只是缺乏書面,首先就無法認定契約是否成立"
: : 打卡並不代表什麼吧?
: 打卡能證明老師有去上課,也就是有給付其勞務,
: 所以補習班也要相對給付其酬勞。
: : 那老闆有必要付薪水嗎?.......
: 除非補習班方面能舉證老師打完卡就翹班或根本沒上課,
: 否則有打卡記錄通常能推定老師有上班..
打卡記錄若是由補習保存,顆顆,補習班能不能不記得有這個打卡紀錄?
連契約都沒有,何來打卡紀錄呢?
那麼,老師是否要自行證明他的上課時數
此外,既然雙方沒有書面勞動契約,
那麼老師要是否要證明自己的工作時薪是多少?
最後,以這樣走上調解或者訴訟
老實說補習班是以逸待勞啦
因為變成老師要先舉證自己的這些東西,舉證責任變到老師方
補習班就等老師先去申請調解,也不用去,就讓老師白跑一趟
然後坐等老師送狀,看看是否立案
真過了之後,再出庭看看老師有甚麼招,再隨機應變就好了
補習班只需要派個時薪 200 塊的文職秘書來應付這件事
老師自己時薪除非高於 200,否則自己來搞這件事
勞民傷財程度損失絕對高於補習班,就更不用說請律師了
這就是實務.有空多放下鍵盤出去做做事
唉,我在認真什麼呀~我輸了~~
--
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