裝潢佔資本額的幾%最合理 - 開店

By Zora
at 2021-01-28T19:22
at 2021-01-28T19:22
Table of Contents
餓死抬頭
事發原因是這樣的
最近和朋友的朋友達成想要一起開店的共識
打算開間以甜點為主搭配輕食的複合式咖啡廳
原本想裝潢的風格是日系小清新風
某次在討論的過程中
對方覺得英式復古風很棒,想要改成這個風格
我覺得也不錯看,表示可以納入考慮風格
但是之後詢價英式復古的風格約落在150萬左右
而且只有裝潢,還不含設備
我們的資本額只有250萬 ,還要涵蓋半年週轉金
我就很表明的告訴對方,希望裝潢不要花這麼多錢
如果很不幸兩三年後收掉,150萬的裝潢也不值錢
也上網查過 很多裝潢到後面會一直追加金額
他喜歡很有特色的裝潢
設計師說這樣金額往往只會追高
但對方就很堅持
我只是想跟對方說希望實際一點
在這塊規劃上再謹慎一點
但對方討論到後面的說法就是
當初他只是想請我幫他做甜點,其他不要過問
還說250萬他可以借到,問我可以借到多少
但是當初他希望金源單純化,所以統一他借
但是我會跟他一人一半負擔
所以其實也算是一人出資一半
講到後面越來越沒有交集 覺得心累
回到正題
請問各位認為裝潢佔資本額的比例多少比較合理?
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事發原因是這樣的
最近和朋友的朋友達成想要一起開店的共識
打算開間以甜點為主搭配輕食的複合式咖啡廳
原本想裝潢的風格是日系小清新風
某次在討論的過程中
對方覺得英式復古風很棒,想要改成這個風格
我覺得也不錯看,表示可以納入考慮風格
但是之後詢價英式復古的風格約落在150萬左右
而且只有裝潢,還不含設備
我們的資本額只有250萬 ,還要涵蓋半年週轉金
我就很表明的告訴對方,希望裝潢不要花這麼多錢
如果很不幸兩三年後收掉,150萬的裝潢也不值錢
也上網查過 很多裝潢到後面會一直追加金額
他喜歡很有特色的裝潢
設計師說這樣金額往往只會追高
但對方就很堅持
我只是想跟對方說希望實際一點
在這塊規劃上再謹慎一點
但對方討論到後面的說法就是
當初他只是想請我幫他做甜點,其他不要過問
還說250萬他可以借到,問我可以借到多少
但是當初他希望金源單純化,所以統一他借
但是我會跟他一人一半負擔
所以其實也算是一人出資一半
講到後面越來越沒有交集 覺得心累
回到正題
請問各位認為裝潢佔資本額的比例多少比較合理?
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By Isabella
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?可以多比較一下喔

By Edward Lewis
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少客人是未知的

By Una
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就把花費的金額統整清楚
該負責的部分分清楚
最好白紙黑字寫清楚

By Jack
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By Catherine
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是每一個條件組成的
你不知道復古風會不會吸引更多人

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By Bethany
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有會給人一吃就很驚訝覺得超好吃的那種感覺嗎

By Kama
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但...泡咖啡也是一個問題
其實餐飲業,第一個月就要開始賺錢了

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By Michael
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甜點好難

By Joe
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跟合夥得講,第一家店開簡單的

By Bennie
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By Genevieve
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想靠裝潢吸引客人..結果很多店裡的事情沒處理好

By Skylar Davis
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By Andy
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了,裝潢花多花少沒有絕對的對與錯,但是資金分配比例不
對就是重傷。

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By Heather
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她附近的咖啡店生意好得不得了

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班自己監工、自己挑木材、自己上漆、自己打磨、所以很省,
但是很苦就是了XD

By Noah
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或是自己動手樂趣多(但很苦)

By Rebecca
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By Kumar
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開咖啡店 很容易一兩年內收攤 除非資本額能夠撐個三五年

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By David
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By Sandy
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之後收掉機率非常高

By Lucy
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內裝修公司」來照自己想要的樣子裝修。雖然一定沒有設計
師設計出來的高級,但創業初期資金不足,就靠後續的內部

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By Megan
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風格應該要以你們甜點搭配,日式就日式,英就英,到時
日甜點配英裝潢或相反,都很怪。再來,兩邊都要有做主
的部分,例如你不過問他怎麼裝潢,他不過問你怎麼做甜
點,平起平坐一定吵架,錢共同出一定吵架,總結是:寧
可銀行借滿身債,也不要跟人同夥!懂?

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By Edward Lewis
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生意差是否會誰會指責出裝潢主意的?或甜點做不好?自
己一人就都沒有這問題了,可以全面提升自己反省能力與
成就感。

By Lauren
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不合了 將來一定衝突更多

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資金斷鏈 就能讓店起死回生

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甜點,可以啊,那不要指望你出錢。

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簡單,這種情況合夥後續看到的麻煩比好處多很多,真想
創業,沒有理念相同的合夥戰友,還不如捏著獨資

By Charlotte
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By Kama
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不用多管,不好可以全身而退。還沒開就有分歧很危險。

By Zenobia
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員工出錢的?

By Zora
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是白談

By Lily
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店、咖啡店、又都喜歡走什麼文青風,又都做沒一兩年錢燒
光了再把店頂讓出去,然後發現這段時間不只沒賺錢還把積
蓄都賠光了一場空,最後再回職場重新上班,順便再找下一
個冤大頭來頂讓~

By Kristin
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,祝福你們好聚好散。

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店

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By Kama
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性費用更折磨人。

By Kelly
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那些費用。尤其甜點類的要嘛吃人氣吃手藝的像台南堯平賣
布郎尼也沒什麼裝潢還天天排隊,要嘛像台中CJSJ手藝跟裝
潢風格同時撐上一個高度,讓人覺得買個一小顆創意甜點好

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By Regina
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的需求可以再問問我,希望你成功!

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By Isabella
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化為烏有,你能接收嗎

By Mason
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By Mia
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名店低消也只有350,妳有超強實力能讓客人花這樣的價格
只是吃甜點咖啡嗎?

By Edith
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By Edwina
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但是我會跟他一人一半負擔
所以其實也算是一人出資一半

By Callum
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做起來店是他的 失敗了請你負擔一半

By Zanna
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不清楚創業的重點,不適合合夥,肯定賠!

By Olga
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By Victoria
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誇張!

By Edwina
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By Rae
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著行銷

By Skylar Davis
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By Callum
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算一年店租要多少,至少抓個2-3年的店租的錢留著。

By Skylar DavisLinda
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能有數個你沒評估到的、短時間無法解決的問題(也可能跟產
品無關)。開店搞裝潢是跟個人美感有關,全包給別人做花的
錢會超出預算很多,真的拆了全讓別人裝潢,超出的錢無法評
估(別人喊多少你都只能接受,但問題你只有250萬)。你自己

By Isla
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By Robert
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地好好工作做幾年再來花自己的錢創業

By Barb Cronin
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賣給他就好,你也可以賺錢

By Jessica
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By Ivy
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By Lily
at 2021-12-01T13:07
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到350萬,要不就取中間值裝潢100萬。然後老饕的我除非名

By Isla
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By Agnes
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By Oliver
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值得合作,算是「攘外」的部分。您的部分就是「安內」
把他招進來的客人留下

By Heather
at 2021-12-11T21:21
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終還是要好吃,懂行銷只是加分,不然客人被行銷騙一

By Ula
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By Robert
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By Ivy
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By Hedwig
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By Kama
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at 2021-12-25T18:29
際做下去因為有店租壓力急於開張只能任人喊價!除非你設計
親自挑材然後只讓師傅做一部分…(所有不同的材質都自己去

By Lily
at 2021-12-30T05:22
at 2021-12-30T05:22
材問價格,光一個窗戶,玻璃和窗框就是不同師傅在做,做完
窗戶後,窗簾也是自己去挑、問清楚價格,如此才能省到最多
錢)

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